[R]: Virginity

[Sonic]

As requested by Minoru in this thread, I now present to you the "Virginity" topic. Basically, what are your views on virginity? What makes you a virgin, what takes it away? And before we get carried away, Chibi Emily, I have appointed you Supreme Mallet Judge. Mallet anyone who gets out of hand.

And...I'm too lazy to start it off, I believe we had several who offered to share their views but where too lazy to start a topic. Lets see if they show up...

[CmptrWz]

By registering you gave up your mental virginity. Entering this topic just confirmed it. >

Beyond that, nothing to say on the matter.

[chibi_emily]

hahaha, awesome *coddles mallet*

As for me...lol, I've done a lot of thinking on the topic, present circumstances considered, and I think...virginity in the meaningful sense of the word is established by one's own self.  Sort of like adulthood, I think.  I don't expect any magical "ope, I've done this, so now I'm an adult" to go on, and I think I also don't expect any magical "whelp, I've popped my cherry, so I can kiss my virginity g'bye."

I'd be willing to relinquish the word virginity, though, and say that, okay, I'll have lost my virginity when my cherry's popped, but I might not have lost that emotional/mental *something* that's often associated with it.  In which case, virginity I think means less than squat to me (I've never been one for rituals or ceremonies or formalities of any sort), and that *something* means quite a lot.  *Something* needs a name, though.  hmmmmmm...

[NightSeverer]

Although i don't have an idea as to what to label your *something* as, I do like leaving it as it is.

And I'm actually surprised this is only PG-13.  What happens when Roy inevitably posts in here?

[TwinShadow]

Let's not go there. XD

My view.. eh.. I honestly don't really know. I don't touch this subject much at all, and is common to ask as a trick question... (yes, I've answered wrong and many occasions, I hate that >.>)

Personally speaking, I would just simply say that once you've 'done it', you pretty much lost your virginity. I'm happy to admit I am because I'm not ready for children. (bleh, teen pregnancy I'm against >.<) I'm just putting it simply really, I don't know how I can elaborate on my own view of it.

[Sonic]

And I'm actually surprised this is only PG-13.  What happens when Roy inevitably posts in here?

Hence why I gave Emily a mallet.

[NightSeverer]

Then let's start this thread off with the question posed in the other thread.  

Would the popping of the hymen by means of a phallic inanimate object ((dildo, vibrator, strap-on, etc.)) constitute loss of virginity?

[Snowdazed]

Booo PG-13
I shall try to conform, though I find it hard.

To look at the official definition of virginity, you have :
1. the state or condition of being a virgin.  
2. the state or condition of being pure, fresh, or unused.  
3. Informal. any naive, uninitiated, or uninformed state.

Virgin is :
1. a person who has never had sexual intercourse.  

(the rest were of no use to me, as they were things like "The Virgin Mary" or "An unfertilized insect", and that being the number 1 I figured it went best)

Personally I have to say that you're still a virgin until you have had sex, or when circumstances get iffy, have orgasmed inside of someone/while someone is inside of you.
Example: My friend was a virgin (debatably still is, I heckle him for it) up until last year. Now I vetoed his loss of virginity because he was really drunk at the time and thus never came/orgasmed. Apparently you can veto virginity, because everyone went with it. Later on I retracted my veto and agreed he was no longer a virgin because while he may have not came, she did. (props to him) But it's still iffy in my mind.
I agree that everyone has a different opinion of virginity, and I also agree that the only one who can truly determine your own virginity is you.
However that wont stop me from arguing with people. Sexual intercourse cinches it. Non-penetration does not count, unless we're talking about gay sex here in which case the lines get iffy again.
On the phallic instruments issue, I would say it depends on the intention. If you break it on purpose, then yes.
However, if you're using a dildo really, you kind of expect to break it =/ At that point, again I'd say it's iffy. Intention, yes. Accidental, you can still classify yourself as a virgin.
I worked with a guy who said your virginity reset itself at the start of every month, so 1st of every month you were a virgin again. I loved this theory because it meant you could be a virgin 12 times a year, and the loss of said virginity wouldn't be as painful as when you originally lost it. Worked for me.
That's just my opinion though ^^

[chibi_emily]

*brazons mallet just in case*

Would the popping of the hymen by means of a phallic inanimate object ((dildo, vibrator, strap-on, etc.)) constitute loss of virginity?

My vote: only if you want it to! xD

Personally I have to say that you're still a virgin until ... when circumstances get iffy, have orgasmed inside of someone/while someone is inside of you.

Though, I like this definition, too. 

[Frozen Inferno]

Emi... as a judge... with a mallet? Why does this make me thing of this? Except Emi isn't German and (as far as I know) doesn't have a mole under her eye.

Anyway, I've given my views on this matter, and it is essentially what snow said. Virginity is having never slept with another person (in that way, don't you dare try to add small details that we all know without having to be said, Corey). Details get confusing in some cases, like when there's no penetration, or in snow's friend's case, no orgasm, but those I think are best left for individual judgement rather than generalization. Also, about the word Emi can't think of... the best I can come up with is innocence. It's not a perfect fit, but it's in the right direction, and it's something to call it. We know what you mean anyway. After all, all of us have been virgins at one point or another, and many of us still are.

[chibi_emily]

Innocence sounds good to me (although I can't help making connections to D. Gray-man, haha)

[digidested2000]

Hm. Emi with a mallet. Maybe if I seduce her right, I may become exempt from her wrath...
I'll have to roll to see if I succeed. Until then, I shall offer my views, PG-13 style.

I agree with more or less everyone when I say you're still a virgin until you've had actual sexual intercourse, as in, through the vagoo. I don't agree with the coming requirement, but I do believe if you're in there for longer than 10 seconds, you can't really say, "whoops, that was some kind of accident, huh?" and still apply as a non-sexed individual.
As with the case with same-sex couples... gay up the butt constitutes loss of virginity, and for the women, strap ons should used lose virginity.

... I THINK I stayed PG-13...

[Snowdazed]

Well I go with having to orgasm inside of them for the man, because they need something to designate their loss like the woman (breaking of hymen. Ow).
Orgasm kind of slots that, and really it's a whole lot easier for a guy so if you don't come either a)she's really, really bad, b)you're really, really drunk, or c)you don't find her attractive at all in which case you shouldnt be sleeping with her anyways.
or d)you have a problem, and should seek some sort of medical help/aid
And on the strap on issue, what about the lesbians who don't use strap ons? Are they virgins forever o.O
Poor women.

[Frozen Inferno]

No, I'd have to argue that lesbian couples that sleep with each other lose virginity even without the use of strap-ons. I believe the important fact is achieving an orgasm with someone else.

[Snowdazed]

No, I'd have to argue that lesbian couples that sleep with each other lose virginity even without the use of strap-ons. I believe the important fact is achieving an orgasm with someone else.

I agree, when it comes to sketchy circumstances such as that, it's the orgasm that defines it.
Hetero couples, I'd say it's the penetration/break of hymen, and the orgasm of a male.
gay couples, penetration.

Things such as HJs and BJs still keep your virginity intact, I would even say though that female orgasm is enough to warrant loss of the v-card because really, it's not all that easy, but I'll stand by my penetration view for that one - It's easier.